Xenosatanism Recoin Discussion

radhell:

TW – Xenosatanism

Tbh I might recoin xenosatanism. The concept is kinda cool but there’s definitely so many problems with it as well. But I feel like it has potential. Just remove the pro-abuse and pro-🍇/SA parts and it’s not half bad.

~ Mod War

arctic-fox-queer:

In my opinion it should be renamed something that doesn’t have satanism in the name if its not related to satanism or satanic related beliefs. In the case of atheistic satanism using satan as more of a metaphor or name makes sense because of what satan as a concept often represents and atheistic satanism typically follows that. Im also open to hearing why satanism could be in the name if someone is able to explain it. Because from what ive heard the original coiner of xenosatanism used satanism as a name because it was used in a derogatory way where they are and it was “reclaiming”. In some cases it would make sense but satanist and satanism in general has always been used as a way to demonize whatever a religious person didnt like instead of a specific thing or a few specific things.

start-where-i-end:

I also agree that it would be better to call it something else. I’m interested in discussing the ethics of this movement though.

radhell:

TW – Xenosatanism, Dark themes

@arctic-fox-queer

I feel like satanism fits well into the name bc Satan is usually seen as an icon for liberty and free will. I was thinking zenisatanism but xenobaphmetism (I’m bad at names, can you tell lol) and using Baphomet is rlly itching my brain the right way too.

As for ethics, there are many things I agree with that are on the carrd such as destigmitization of nudity and sex. I’d like to make it more detailed tho bc they carrd very much makes it seem like fckn on park benches for everyone to see and walking to grocery stores fully in the nude is ok when this would be uncomfortable and even triggering for many.

Things like youth liberation, drug liberation, para liberation, etc I also like but remove all the very much pro-abuse shit (like making “non-harmful” 🍇 legal, no not CNC, legit irl 🍇 and actual CP) from it bc ew yucky, no.

If either of ya’ll are in the transid.org discord, I’ll prolly talk more about it over there as I get more ideas. :)))

~ Mod War