PRE-N.I.N.S.G Discussion

From permared’s pinned post (on October 14, 2026):

“Salutations!!! You may have heard of us or not… We are the original coiners of N.I.N.S.G!!! However, the second one associated to it made a FLEUR version which doesn’t define my vision that I had in mind… so here’s PRE-N.I.N.S.G!!! Aka someone who identifies as a N.I.N before that person dictatorship!!!”

Carrd linked: https://pre-ninsg.carrd.co/

From the carrd:

“The Original Flag That Started Everything.

This is a guide of the original coin of N.I.N.S.G made by the original coiner itself

The “Pre” prefix before the N.I.N.S.G stands as “before”. What before? Before the current owner of the N.I.N.S.G stole my ownership over this label. Anyone who aligns with the FLEUR version of N.I.N.S.G will never be aligned with the original spirit me and the current owner had in the past, and he, changed a lot of his past views that he eradicated upon turning FLEUR.”

Original Stances:

“N.I.N (short for Non Ideological Nazis) Support Group is a stance that supports all kind of Nazis that don’t share ideological views of Nazism or its sub branch Fascism.

Code: ˗ˏˋ⚡︎ˎˊ˗⋒˗ˏˋ⚡︎ˎˊ Emoji combo: ⚡🍓⚡

Flag meaning:

Each colour symbolises respectively Trans, Äußer, Spite, Cis… The black is used to symbolise the dark power someone might feel when they hear “Nazi” and the white symbolises the will to not harm without consent. The falcon with the strawberry emoji symbolises being Radqueer.

Flag description:

Outward to inward: Black, Purple, Greyish purple, magenta, red, white. A rainbow gradient falcon at the centre holding an hibiscus with an emoji strawberry on it. There are black glitters at the sides of the falcon wings and at the bottom.

Pro:

  • Everything that Radqueer entails
  • All non ideological Nazi identities
  • Support in consensual and non harmful transition
  • Destigmatization of expressing outwardly with Nazi gear, uniforms and aesthetics in an innocent or sexual way
  • Destigmatizating identifying as a CisNazi for non ideological reasons

Anti:

  • Harassment
  • Bigotry
  • Misogyny and Misandry
  • Racism
  • Ableism
  • Ideological Nazis
  • Transitioning into the ideology

N.I.N stands for Non Ideological Nazis and they can be considered an umbrella term for all kinds of nazi who don’t hold the ideological aspect of nazism (such as racial superiority and bigotry).”But by identifying as a Nazi you identify with Nazism! An ideology!” Well, no… We’re queer and we can separate some traits of nazism without being an asshole. How you may ask? Here’s some examples:

The aesthetic: Ideological Nazis used fashion as a form to express their power like any other authoritarian regime. But fashion by itself is not harmful unless you specifically use its imaginery to express non consensual abusive acts. One of the goals of N.I.N Support Group is to destigmatize wearing nazi fashion as It gets worn between consenting parties that agreed to expose the fashion to their naked eyes. This kind of exposure can be expressed in a modest or sexual/kink way.

Plurality and Kin memories: this is self explanatory. Someone might identify as a CisNazi or a CisSource Nazi by being a fictive or having memories relating to being a kin or even other forms of neurodivergency. This obviously, doesn’t mean that the beings in question the ideology in their hearts.

These two examples are the most common in beings who identify as N.I.N but everyone may have their own reasons! Just kindly ask the being why they identify as one of the IDs if [pronoun] is open to it!Is this all?No.

Here’s some extras:”What about N.I.N who in the end share Ideological things on their profiles?!” We don’t claim them. And they’re no better than an ideological Nazi.”What about Ideological Nazis who are working to get out of that mindset?!” N.I.N Support Group welcomes these kind of beings as everyone deserves to have chances to redeem [pronoun] after [pronoun] got rightfully punished for [pronoun] actions and are actively trying to get better. “By using/trying to reclaim Nazi dogwhistles you’re no better than Nazis and you’re so distasteful!!” Many beings doesn’t realise that many symbolism of Ideological Nazis got stolen by already existing symbolism, and, other beings got the right to reclaim the symbolism from Ideological nazis. The more something gets used in a different way from its source, the more it loses its meaning and gets reshaped (you can think about the word queer for example, once a slur, then reclaimed).

N.I.N Support Group is neutral on its stance about beings reclaiming dogwhistles and saying slurs: the thing that matters is that all parties consent to see the Hateful imaginery; however, if used to harm non consensually, it’s absolutely not ok.”You’re a privileged perisex neurotypical cis male !!!”???? I’m a physical bigenital (not intersex) and disabled woman with a schizospec diagnosis living in a conservative country, sadly. Hope this was helpful as I tried to use simple vocabulary and cover all the concerns about N.I.N and N.I.N Support Group.

RECOIN.

N.I.N (short for Non Ideological Nazis) Support Group is a stance that supports all kind of NaziID that don’t share ideological views of Nazism or the other various kinds of Fascism.

NOTE: N.I.N Support Group did not start the N.I.N, it just acknowledges and supports them. N.I.N always existed as TNazis, but N.I.N is an umbrella term for all the other NaziID labels.

Code: 𓆣˗⋒˗𓆣 Emoji combo: 🪲🍓🪲

Official Alternative Flag meaning: Each colour symbolises respectively Trans, Äußer, Spite, Cis… The black is used to symbolise the dark power someone might feel when they hear “Nazi” and the white symbolises the will to not harm without consent. The Bombardier beetle with the strawberry emoji symbolises being Radqueer.

Official Alternative Flag description: Outward to inward: Black, Purple, Greyish purple, magenta, red, white. There is a bombardier beetle at the centre with a strawberry.

Pro:

  • Everything that Radqueer entails
    • This is a Radqueer and post-radqueer stance
  • All non ideological Nazi identities
    • This includes identifying as Cis for matters regarding source, kin memories, delusions, aesthetics, consensually wearing the aesthetic, etc. N.I.N Support Group promotes liberty of self expression.
  • Support in consensual and non harmful transition
    • This would apply as getting in a group which consented to be exposed to the imaginery or words associated.
  • Destigmatization of expressing outwardly with Nazi gear, uniforms and aesthetics in an innocent or sexual way
    • Same as previous point.

Neutral:

  • Reclamation of the ideological symbols
  • Saying slurs and dogwhistles associated with the ideology
  • Ideological Nazis trying to get out of the ideology and better themselves.
    • Note: N.I.N support group promotes consent above anything else, the points above are no exception.

Anti:

  • Harassment
  • Bigotry
  • Misogyny and Misandry
  • Racism
  • Ableism
  • Ideological Nazis
  • Transitioning into the ideology
  • Nonconsensual actions”

Alternative Flags:

Alt flags by runecoin

Alt flag by bckrms

Alt flag by e-moticon

TransID Related

TransNIN

Someone who identifies as a N.I.N in a trans way. Made by toybox-sadist

PermaNIN

Someone who identifies as permanently being a N.I.N, be it trans, cis, tris, etc. Made by transnazism

SpiteNIN

Someone who identifies as a N.I.N out of spite. Made by ltcol-kroenen

SituCisNIN

Someone who identifies as N.I.N in a cis way in some situations. Made by ltcol-kroenen

FauxNIN

Someone who identifies as a N.I.N for fun or because they want to. Made by thirdreichirl

SpikeNIN

Someone who occasionally feels more N.I.N than usual. Made by thirdreichirl

AestheticNIN

Someone who identifies as a N.I.N for its aestetic or for nazi aestetic. Made by thirdreichirl

Other Related Flags

Ally Flag made by saltyonyx”

Additional comments on the carrd:

“The Things The Current Owner (of N.I.N.S.G) Lied About Of Me

Are you really an animal rapist?
I was groomed by one of my pro-contact exes to watch bestiality with them and telling me that it was ok. I have no intention to have sex with a domestic animal since my main zoo attractions are lions and tigers, and, I’m not stupid enough to have contact with them.

Why did you fake an Overdose?
I did not. After talking about bestiality with the current owner of N.I.N.S.G, my suicidal alter got triggered for quite some time. We had to go to some parties in that period and that was the perfect chance for that alter to try an overdose with alcohol. Thankfully (or unfortunately for the current owner), the attempt of the alter did obviously not go through, which lead our other alter to panic and ask advice. In conclusion: He fakeclaimed us.

Why your system rapes each other?
You have no right to tell us what we do IN OUR HEAD and how we cope about our childhood trauma.

Why you lead the current owner on?
I’m gonna summarize this in the simplest way: I got attached to him, yes, but before that, I fell in a fawn response towards him because he really wanted to be the co-owner of N.I.N.S.G despite only being the second one to identify as it and not contributing to anything I wrote in the original coin days. This lead my mind to think that I HAD TO stay with him, even because he usually is very aggressive when he talks about his beliefs. I don’t know if he changed in that aspect but I don’t care, he can stay as the one who identifies as the “better” FLEUR stance. But moving on, the reason why I did not want to reciprocate his feelings was also because he was “pro radqueer” and we did not share any interests. I almost immediately smelled that something wrong was going to happen because of me not wanting to date him, and it did. Anyways, that is all I remember about it.

Wait… The current owner contributed nothing to N.I.N.S.G?
He only made the strawberry designs in the recoined stance flags.

Why the current owner has the ownership of the original Discord server?
I got paranoid that my first account was gonna get suspended by my groomers reporting it in the past and gave the ownership OF THE SERVER I BUILT ALONE to him.

Why did you pretend to be your own roomate?
Because I wanted to goof around and see how long anyone would’ve noticed, but I decided to deliberately reveal myself because I got bored of it. All the things I posted after on my blog were meant to ragebait the ones who hate me, which I succeeded since they took everything seriously LMAO”